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Starting R50 "Barn Find Condition" Restoration Project
Starting R50 "Barn Find Condition" Restoration Project
I am starting a restoration project of an old and rusty 1955 R50 that I bought at the estate auction here in Australia.
Funny enough - it came with the Californian number plates that had stickers from 1974. The bike was previously in a crash with the damage that hasn't been repaired (badly smashed headlight, bent handlebars, broken throttle cables and whatnot...), so I'm assuming it never ran since then.
Long story short - it is a really challenging project for me, but I'd really love to put it back on the road if I can, and will be needing advise on various topics as it's my first bike and restoration of this kind.
The first question that concerns me the most is the frame geometry, and more specifically - how can I check whether it requires straightening.
There's a fair bit of damage, including badly bent handlebar, somewhat misaligned fenders and rear fender mount, bent muffler etc, but it's really hard to tell if the frame is ok or not.
Unfortunately it's really hard to find this kind of specialist here in Melbourne these days, so it'd be great to get some advise on frame checking.
And another question is - whether I should try to start the engine (as I'm extremely curious to try to run it).
There's no battery at the moment and no ignition key I could use (the headlight is smashed and there's just a spiderweb of cables in it) - but when I try the kickstart - there's a spark in both plugs.
Does it mean that the ignition switch is currently in the "on" state, or is it simply Magneto doing its job?
Can I (and should I attempt to) start it at all before getting the battery, checking valves etc and fixing the electrics?
Please see the condition of the bike and "headlight contents" attached
Thank you
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Andy
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Andy - Welcome! You have
Welcome! You have quite the road ahead of your...good luck!
As for the frame, I would try the following:
- the wheel base is 1415mm. Put the wheels on, hold the bike upright, and drop plumb bobs to the ground at each axle. Measure the length.
- ensure that the steering is pointed straight...get behind the bike and sight down the rear tire to the front. I believe the wheels should track together, or at least point the same direction.
- bolt something straight to the handlebar mounts, turn the steering as straight as you can and see what that bar looks like.
As for the ignition, something must be messed up inside the headlight shell to make the contact a key would. Inserting a key allows the magneto to work (grounds it or ungrounds it...I just cannot remember which) so you would need to get that fixed. If you try to start it, you might not have a way to stop it...at least easily that I can think of. I'd get farther along with the restoration before considering something like that.
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Welcome...
Thank you!
Thank you very much for your responses, this helps a lot!
Will get checking the frame today based on you advise and will see how I go!
Testing the front might be a bit tricky, as the handlebar mount (at least the right one) seems to be affected by the crash, so it's really hard to tell what the "straight" is in terms of fork/wheel etc.
I.e. if I'm aligning the wheel so that it appears straight - it hard to be 100% sure that the top fork mounts are straight too, but I guess I might try to do some measurements there to compare the left and right side clearances.
(the bike is missing central stand, and I'm currently using my apartment building's garage, which doesn't help either, hehe)
Also thank you for the your advise re. ignition - so it sounds like it's in an "On" state and I at least need to figure out how to disengage it quickly before trying to start the bike.
@R68 - yes it's definitely a big challenge for me, but at least I gotta give it a shot. The bike has triple matching numbers, so it's "original" in that sense and it'd be a shame to make it a "donor" bike.
What's interesting is that the ID plate says "Baujahr 1953" and "Baureihe" is 1955 - so the early air cleaner is probably original too
Thanks again!
Andy
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You can test to see if the
Thank you...
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R68, How do you find out
How do you find out number in production run?
I have a 55 R50 - came out of deceased previous owners estate sale.
Matching numbers 551592
Just pulled engine for rebuild.
Never seemed to have been apart.
Original paint/controls/dimpled headlight bucket ect
Thanks