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Denfeld vs Pagusa?
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Reminds me of Haribo - HArold RIgel BOnn, must be a German thing!
Scott
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Did you know that the Pagusa rubber seat cover first shows up in 1936 on the R5. Someone once told me that Dunlop made the rubber seat to substitute for the fiber seat cover used before on the pre 1936 bikes. Here's a pic! Might be a fairy tale though?
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You are correct. There WAS a vertical compression spring for the R25. not used on the twins. I had them. I forgot completely about that.
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While we're in the minutia rabbit hole, my original paint with original seat cover (I think and since replaced) 1955 R67/3 came with a Pagusa seat, not with an unmarked seat like my R69. Curious...
Chuck S
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Anyway Chuck and Vech must have the only vertical spring type early '55 examples of those swingers seats in the world? I once wanted to trade an ISDT clock for one, no takers!
Here's poor quality pic of the early version SFS seat, with "SFS" shown, Chuck's being a later type, correct to '55 (?), I think?
It's a poor design, rubber tends to crack early, cannot be repaired, I think? That's why they are so seldom seen?
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A couple of other minutia details... If you look carefully at the vertical seat spring, the mounting of it is completely different than that shown in Vech's diagram for the singles. The spring actually "threads" into its top and bottom mounting brackets. In addition if you look carefully inside the spring, you will see a rubber "bumper" designed to cushion the spring before it coil binds on compression. From a comfort vantage point, a rubber silent block "spring" gives a much more pleasant ride than the steel coil spring, probably why BMW switched somewhere in the late '55 - early '56 time frame.
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Reminds me of Haribo - HArold RIgel BOnn, must be a German thing!
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I spent months while researching my R 35 trying to work out 'hirafe'. Turns out it means HInter RAd FEderung - rear wheel suspension. LIMA means LIcht MAschine - generator. There are more.
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The only saddle I don't think I heard mentioned was the "Steiger," which has a poor reputation for quality. That being said, I bought a 1964 R60/2 about 15 years ago that came with a Steiger solo and had been in service for 3 decades showing zero indications of impending failure. But with the suggestion from Christopher Betjemann at the time, I swapped it out for a Pagusa which was incidentally his saddle of choice. The Steiger is on the shelf and still looks fine. That being said, the rubber does seem to be slightly thinner than the heavier Pagusa and was arguably slightly more comfortable as a result.