Re: 1965 R60/2 Overhaul
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:35 pm
Hi Bill-
Well I'm done with today's riding, so here's my own two cents.
There are competent guys doing slinger work in most areas of the country.
I could recommend a couple located here in New England.
And no doubt just about any of the guys taking slinger work would do an engine shipped to them, but if money matters, the closer to you obviously the cheaper the freight.
And best is within your driving range, as nothing beats a face to face; there must be a few guys in the Denver area.
Most dealerships are not where to look for work on the older bikes, they tend to have little experience with them as they concentrate heavily on the new bikes, but the older wrenches probably know who the capable guys in the area are and who you'll want to use.
If having someone doing just the slinger work on your bike, know that half the cost will be removing and replacing the engine in the bike, though you sound like you may be up for that part. (while slingers are being done is the perfect time to do the three trans seals)
And rare is the engine that gets torn down that only gets the slingers cleaned, if the bike has sat 43 years, I'd expect to find a few other things wanting attention.
Unless you're confident about assessing the condition and fitment of all the various engine parts, you may want to let the slinger guy do all the disassembly, and trust his critical eye.
But you asked about tools, too; so maybe you're deciding whether or not to do the whole job yourself?
Back when the two clubs combined, I thought Richard was maybe bringing the loaner tools here; hopefully one of the clubbers will join in here and tell us what's what?
If you do decide to remove the flywheel, and the bike has felt like a smooth runner, perhaps index the pressure plate, etc, in case it had previously been balanced.
You asked about lightening the flywheel, and that's a subjective question; which begs another question, which is why lighten?
A lighter flywheel does allow for quicker shifts and quicker revs, but this is an R60, (not an S model) which makes its power down low, and is not really a go-fast candidate, maybe enjoy it as is?
You mentioned having the Benchmark book; I'm not familiar with that, and maybe you meant the Barrington book, if not, the Barrington book is very much worth having.
In your list of things you'd serviced, I didn't see the swingarms, but maybe you've done them.
If not, they're worth inspecting, lubing, and checking clearances, as the rollers tend to displace lube in short order and then run dry.
This is because they never roll over, as when used in a wheel, they just rock back and forth in place.
If you see ghosting on the outer race after removing the rollers, it's a sign of chemical etching, meaning corrosion is working its way through the surface hardening.
The screws on the advance plate; back when these bikes were current, it was popular for the shops to put a dollop of paint, or something, on top of the screw as a kind of locktite to help the screw resist loosening after a service.
Do you feel those dollars melting away yet?
Ha!
Enjoy the process, and then the ride, Bill.
Best-
George
Well I'm done with today's riding, so here's my own two cents.
There are competent guys doing slinger work in most areas of the country.
I could recommend a couple located here in New England.
And no doubt just about any of the guys taking slinger work would do an engine shipped to them, but if money matters, the closer to you obviously the cheaper the freight.
And best is within your driving range, as nothing beats a face to face; there must be a few guys in the Denver area.
Most dealerships are not where to look for work on the older bikes, they tend to have little experience with them as they concentrate heavily on the new bikes, but the older wrenches probably know who the capable guys in the area are and who you'll want to use.
If having someone doing just the slinger work on your bike, know that half the cost will be removing and replacing the engine in the bike, though you sound like you may be up for that part. (while slingers are being done is the perfect time to do the three trans seals)
And rare is the engine that gets torn down that only gets the slingers cleaned, if the bike has sat 43 years, I'd expect to find a few other things wanting attention.
Unless you're confident about assessing the condition and fitment of all the various engine parts, you may want to let the slinger guy do all the disassembly, and trust his critical eye.
But you asked about tools, too; so maybe you're deciding whether or not to do the whole job yourself?
Back when the two clubs combined, I thought Richard was maybe bringing the loaner tools here; hopefully one of the clubbers will join in here and tell us what's what?
If you do decide to remove the flywheel, and the bike has felt like a smooth runner, perhaps index the pressure plate, etc, in case it had previously been balanced.
You asked about lightening the flywheel, and that's a subjective question; which begs another question, which is why lighten?
A lighter flywheel does allow for quicker shifts and quicker revs, but this is an R60, (not an S model) which makes its power down low, and is not really a go-fast candidate, maybe enjoy it as is?
You mentioned having the Benchmark book; I'm not familiar with that, and maybe you meant the Barrington book, if not, the Barrington book is very much worth having.
In your list of things you'd serviced, I didn't see the swingarms, but maybe you've done them.
If not, they're worth inspecting, lubing, and checking clearances, as the rollers tend to displace lube in short order and then run dry.
This is because they never roll over, as when used in a wheel, they just rock back and forth in place.
If you see ghosting on the outer race after removing the rollers, it's a sign of chemical etching, meaning corrosion is working its way through the surface hardening.
The screws on the advance plate; back when these bikes were current, it was popular for the shops to put a dollop of paint, or something, on top of the screw as a kind of locktite to help the screw resist loosening after a service.
Do you feel those dollars melting away yet?
Ha!
Enjoy the process, and then the ride, Bill.
Best-
George