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Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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Hey folks...just curious if these are period correct switches for my bike? I have seen pictures of bikes where both sides use the turn signal (right side) switch. Not sure if matters but my bike originally came from South Africa.
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Re: Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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The left hand chrome hi/low horn switch is, but the right hand rotary switch is from a later /5..
The correct right hand rotary switch is this one:
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Re: Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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Thank you sir! Now I need to buy the right one! Any recommendations?

EDIT...so it looks like the main switch housing (the part that attaches to the handlebar) is the same for /2 and /5, at least according to the parts fiche on Bobs BMW. Can I simply buy the larger switch and swap?
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Re: Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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Almost that simple but not quite. The existing /5 switch you currently have, has a non removable, hard wired harness on it.

The correct era switch, has tiny screw terminals on the back side, to attach the harness to the switch.

These are the part numbers you would need in order to put the correct switch in place.
61 31 8 048 183 -- Hella turn signal switch with horn contact R27-R69S RHS
61 12 8 060 012 -- harness directional switch to bucket R26-R69S

The existing switch base, that is on the perch, will accept the earlier style switch, so you can reuse it.
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Re: Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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vechorik1373 wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:03 am

The existing switch base, that is on the perch, will accept the earlier style switch, so you can reuse it.
That is perfect! Thank you! I assume I just need to remove the two small screws to remove the existing rotary switch?
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You wrote: That is perfect! Thank you! I assume I just need to remove the two small screws to remove the existing rotary switch?

Correct. Remove them, and pull the the switch out of the base. The existing harness will have to be disconnected inside the headlight bucket, and then the harness will pull through the switch base.
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Re: Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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I have those same L&R switches on my '68 R69S. I would really like to change them out for the "blade" switches but the prices I see for them are crazy.

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Re: Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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vechorik1373 wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:54 pm
You wrote: That is perfect! Thank you! I assume I just need to remove the two small screws to remove the existing rotary switch?

Correct. Remove them, and pull the the switch out of the base. The existing harness will have to be disconnected inside the headlight bucket, and then the harness will pull through the switch base.
Instead of doing that can I just cut the wires from the existing rotary switch and then screw them into the terminals on the back of the new rotary switch?
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You wrote:
Instead of doing that can I just cut the wires from the existing rotary switch and then screw them into the terminals on the back of the new rotary switch?

I would not do that. The wires of the /5 switch are OLD. And stiff. And, if you cut them, and strip the insulation off, You must twist, and wrap the wires around the end of an ice pick, to make a loop that just the correct size that fits the tiny terminal screw. And you must tin the loop with solder. Make too big, you can short things. also you want to confirm the function of each lead, new switch versus old /5 switch . Don't cheap out on us, do it right. You may cause yourself a lot of grief, otherwise.
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Re: Are these the correct switches for a 1967 R69s?

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vechorik1373 wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:48 pm
You wrote:
Instead of doing that can I just cut the wires from the existing rotary switch and then screw them into the terminals on the back of the new rotary switch?

I would not do that. The wires of the /5 switch are OLD. And stiff. And, if you cut them, and strip the insulation off, You must twist, and wrap the wires around the end of an ice pick, to make a loop that just the correct size that fits the tiny terminal screw. And you must tin the loop with solder. Make too big, you can short things. also you want to confirm the function of each lead, new switch versus old /5 switch . Don't cheap out on us, do it right. You may cause yourself a lot of grief, otherwise.
Got it. Will take your advice. One last question...is that part # for the wiring harness right? A search doenst bring up anything.
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