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Is this a mint original?

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:41 pm
by miller6997
Show of hands: How many think that this R60 on eBay is really "mint" and "original?"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-BMW-R-Ser ... Sw8vJf086O

I would have just passed it by, but it's being sold out of a motorcycle museum where, I assume, it was also billed as original and mint.

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:34 am
by flyingtpot
Pinstripes missing.
Paint looks 'rough' in the pics.
Front brake plate levers incorrectly positioned.
Air tube rubber clamps missing.
Exhaust crossover pipe missing.
Incorrect washer on the rear fender flap M8 stud.
Bizarro M10 top fork brace right side bolt.
Air filter housing paint color not factory.
Non-factory left handlebar grip.
Kickstart frame bumper incorrectly positioned. Ouch, when trying to start the engine
Incorrect fuel tap (and it's in the 'on' position :shock: )

All the best to seller, yet at a BIN of $25K USD, one should get more for that kind of BIN coin.

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:49 am
by malmac
I think the above post points out enough points to determine it is neither mint or factory original.

Mal

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:39 am
by schrader7032
Plus the VIN places the bike in the mid 1960s and is a R60/2 not an R60. They do use the phrase "looks MINT" in the listing, though!

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:58 am
by wa1nca
less than 4 hrs left
better bid soon
Tommy

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:40 pm
by Slash2
Last I checked, anyone can open a “museum” and freedom of speech extends to auction descriptions.

Caveat emptor.

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:03 am
by malmac
Slash2 wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:40 pm
Last I checked, anyone can open a “museum” and freedom of speech extends to auction descriptions.

Caveat emptor.
Ahh yes, but we don't have to go to the museum or believe what the auctioneer sprouts.

Well I hope not.

Mal

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:59 am
by wa1nca
price drop
buy it now only $14,500
Still to high
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-BMW-R-Ser ... 6O&vxp=mtr
Tommy

Re: Is this a mint original?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:23 pm
by Discogodfather
Kaplan isn't a bad guy from what I hear, he has a lot of bikes going through that outfit and it's usually pretty well represented. Clearly this one has got some serious issues in terms of originality. It looks like some pretty cheap paint too.

Maybe $7500-8500 and if it had a good proof the slingers were done by someone good then maybe a bit higher? That's what I would pay, but I wouldn't be interested much in the first place.