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doublejj
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Sorry if this seems like a silly question but,....

All my research tells me that the R35 was produced from 1937- 1940.

On ebay I see this. (and two of em to boot)

On one it says;
1948 BMW R-Series R35
Vintage 1948 BMW R35 SAG

The other said this;
........Quoted from ebay;
"One thing to note on this bike is the year. The R35 stopped production in 1940 because of the war. They continued again in 1945. The previous owner says this is a 46 and it is registered as such but I did some research and found that the bike's serial number suggests that it is a post-war 1947"......end quote:......

What gives, beside somebody apparently selling a Frankenstein models?

What throws me though is SAG
What is "SAG"

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A humble grasshopper.

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I don't know what SAG is

I don't know what SAG is supposed to mean, but I can give you a bit of R35 history:

The R35 was produced in large numbers by BMW from 1937 through 1940, mostly for the German Wehrmacht. As the war was on, and BMW ramped up production of their aero engines, they needed more room at their Munich plant, so the R35 production was moved to BMW's plant in Eisenach, which they acquired in 1928 when they got into automobile production by buying the Dixi plant there.

After the war, Eisenach ended up in the Soviet zone, and the Soviets almost immediately ordered new production of the R35. At first the bikes were made from spares in stock, but then the production line ramped up. The East Germans continued producing R35s, in three series, through 1956.

At first, they continued to call them BMWs, and included the BMW badges. In 1950 BMW was able to get them to stop using their name and logo, and the Eisenacher Motoren Werke (EMW) was founded, with a white and red round logo looking much like the BMW logo, but not too much like it.

The early postwar bikes are essentially indistinguishable from the prewar bikes except that they have serial numbers starting with 2 instead of 3. Naturally, this leads to a lot of forgery, most of which is not very good. However, as your examples are not being passed off as prewar bikes, that hopefully means they haven't been tampered with.

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SAG might be "Sowjetische

SAG might be "Sowjetische Aktiengesellshaften". I thought it might have something to do with Soviet, so I google SAG with a Soviet follow-up. It appears to be a Soviet organization of corporations which helped in the East Germany economic recovery after the war.

Oldtimer's Gallery has an interesting page on the R35:

http://www.autogallery.org.ru/bmwr35.htm

and something from Jeff Dean's website:

http://bmwdean.com/r35.htm

and still more from the Einzylinder website:

http://www.bmw-einzylinder.de/Start/historie/wissen/emwhist.php

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Thanks for the history

Thanks for the history lesson.

I had thought it was short for, "Soviet Army Goullogg" or something like that.

I got a new BMW goal now. To ride one of these old beast that have a stick shift and find out what it was like back then.

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And this site for the

And this site for the EMW...in German:

http://www.emw-r35.de/index.html

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