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skyler.robbins
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Hey Gang,
I was at The One Motorcycle Show last night here in Portland Oregon.
It is quite the show... hundreds of rare custom/stock bikes from all over the USA.
Around 3 slash 2's there.. maybe 10 or more 70's BMW's.

This one was by far my favorite.
1957(?) that this guy got running after sitting forever.
He says everything works, but it blows a lot of oil out the breather.

While shooting the shit and not seriously talking price, I think he would take around $5000 for it.

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I'm sure he'd take $5,000 for

I'm sure he'd take $5,000 for it! He'd be crazy not to, and someone would be crazy to pay that. I bought a bike in better condition than this one for $5,000 three years ago and ended up putting $10,000 into it, not counting my labor. One would be mistaken to try to run this bike (or any old BMW with unknown history) without totally rebuilding engine, transmission, and bevel drive. There was almost nothing on the bike I bought that did not require repair or replacement once I got into it. For example, I paid $1,361 to have the crank rebuilt, which does not include the cost of removing and installing it in the engine! I'll grant you my R60/2 has new engine, trans, bevel, carbs, wiring, battery, powder coated frame, paint, striping, seat, on and on, but I am into it for almost $15,000 and eight months of work. I'm OK with that, as I do have a gorgeous and reliable bike, but your experience may vary. Looking at the condition of the bike pictured I would run the other way.

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I'm not buying it... one is

I'm not buying it... one is enough for how expensive these things are, hahaha

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On would be surprise what

On would be surprise what “patina” bikes fetch.

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Patina?

I don't think that bike is in its original color, is it? It's hard to tell from the pictures, but that doesn't look like BMW blue to me, and the rear fender looks like it may even be chrome. My sense is that "patina" only counts when it's on the original bike.

But I'm quibbling. I agree that $5000 would be way too much. Think of it as a box job that's glued together, and box jobs usually top out around $3K.

On the other hand, if the numbers match, I don't think that $2000 would be over the top.

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The paint looked original to

The paint looked original to me, but then again, I didn't spend too much time on it.. all the "patina" was consistent from the story he told me about the bike.. however I notice there isn't any pin striping.
This was his childhood friend's dad's bike and I do believe he said they bought it new.

I think someone in California who owns a couple R69s got it running for him.

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I would rather see some one

I would rather see some one over pay for a the whole bike to keep it rolling, rather than have someone part out a perfectly good one.(Carefully parting it out would probably yield a much higher price, give the plethora of small parts you can sell for premiums!) While parting out a bike is a great source for some of us, it takes another one away forever.

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I agree..

I agree..

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Jeff Dean’s site shows a late

Jeff Dean’s site shows a late 50s /2 in a similar blue...not to mention on this forum:
http://vintagebmw.org/v7/node/8997

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I paid $5K for this running

I paid $5K for this running 1963 R50/2 that also had been sitting for years as a display. 14k on the clock and I think it's legit.

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Grand Theft Moto

If the mileage is correct, $5000 was a real bargain. The only thing I see wrong is the Harley sign on the wall. ;^}

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Yes, Jon it is a sickness and

Yes, Jon it is a sickness and I do have a weakness for "old iron". However, I do find myself gravitating towards the /2 as opposed to the old shovelheads. It's just more nimble to ride.
Is this a better photo looking the other way?

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Better photo

That is a better photo, and now I'm sure you got a bargain. Congratulations!

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That's a...

...early production BMW, before mid 1957, and if it's an R60, could be a first year!...some folks put a premium on the early bikes. A real pity to part that out?

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Actually...

...I think that's a REALLY early bike, maybe an early 1955! Do you see the chrome plated accessory hole round head machine screws on top of rear fender? I think they only used them for a few months in early production, and yer hardly ever see them still in place. As for color, a repaint, isn't that a very popular color for the big Harleys in that era? I don't know what it's called.

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Good Eyes

Nice spot on the chrome-head hole plug screws. My '55 R69 came with two of them. Also, the 4 rear fender to shock tower bolts were chrome on the very early ones (with the solo seat) - I still have two of the originals. Mine had a dual seat, and likely had two of the chrome bolts replaced with black for that seat.

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That Bike

That bike still has the small headlight ears, but has a later front fender. Also the later air cleaner. If it is a true '57, that was certainly in the transition with some early parts and some late parts from the factory.

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Also note the Coffee Can

Also note the Coffee Can taillight. Although nobody can say for sure....since it seems the factory just used whatever parts they had left over....it seems the coffee can was a mid-late 1957 addition.

I also have a 1957 R60 that has a mix of early and late 57 parts yet still has an early Eber tail light. ( I bought my bike from the original owner and he confirmed he received it from the dealership that way. Some people might try and "correct" mismatched parts on a '57 however it very well may have came that way from the factory!

I honestly don't know what month and day that production started and ended for the 1957 model year but I know that my bike was manufactured on May 13, 1957. Anyone know for sure?

So 1957 is a tough year to figure out if things are "correct" as there was such a mixture of "early" and "late" parts. Also interesting that 1957 was an extremely low production year.

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Mixed Parts

My 1955 R50 has the later coffee can tail light,front fender with second brace and later air cleaner
I thought they were not original but now not sure
It does have the single pass spokes on both wheels, and short headlight ears

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"Mixed parts"

If you have your original head plate, it should mention Baujahr and Baureihe, and if it's a 1955 production, both terms will be stamped "1955"...single cross spokes are clearly correct for 1955, but double cross seem to start to show up in 1956 AFAIK, and same applies to front fender brace. It's hard to say anything about the air cleaner since it's so easy to change, but this blue bike under discussion has a chromed aircleaner housing so maybe it's replaced? As for tail lamp, if you have a pre mid-1956 production rear fender that used the small tail lamp, then you'll find a small hole midline just above the license plate bracket that accepted the three bolt small tail lamp (or the MUCH rarer than hens teeth small version coffee can tail light for which I will trade you the sun/moon/stars/date with Bo Derek for). Actually the rear fender on that blue bike may even be the original large valence rear fender, also up there with the hens teeth, but it's hard to tell from the pics? As for chrome front shock bolts, just mill off "Kamax" and re chrome? Finally, the very early bikes seem to have the plunger license bracket, with two mounting holes...trivia.

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