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Hello all-

Besides Avus Black, Dover White, and Police Green what colors were available on the /2 bikes? Here is what I have observed.

1. Granada Red- We've all seen this of course. Slabon says there were two shades of red...Granada Red being somewhat commonly seen, but I don't know what the other red is, or if is just mis-information.
2. Monza Blue- Also on /5 so that makes sense.
3. Dominican Blue- Not sure if this is the same as China Blue, but they certainly seem the same.
4. Grey- Not sure what the BMW name is, or even if this is an original color. It is NOT Wehrmacht grey.
5. White- More of a pure white, again, not sure of the BMW name.

Feel free to add clarification to the above or add other colors.

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Bristol Grey

Bristol Grey is one grey they offered, but there was a darker one also. Dominican Blue was the BMW color. China Blue is not - I think it was a Mercedes color, but not sure. Turf Green was the common green found on /2s

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Same shade?

Daves79x wrote:

......... Turf Green was the common green found on /2s

Dave

Is this the same green as the one found on German police /2 bikes?

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No - that is a different green.

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Turf Green is more of an

Turf Green is more of an Aqua/Blue Green color like in the attached photo of the R69S. Police Green is a true green. Something like a forest green or British Racing Green, as on the second example below.

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Some more color

Some more color examples:

Dominican Blue
Dover White
Bristol Grey
Riviera Blue...It looks like Monza Blue to me, so maybe the original poster was mistaken. The Esteemed Jeff Dean lists it as Caribe Blue on his website. If anyone knows what it really is just say so.
Granada Red
Avus black

Full credit to the original photographers, whomever they may be, and their marvelous bikes.

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Colors

When I restored my /2 I wish I had seen a post like this before I started. Some of those colors are amazing. The Dover white still intrigues me.

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There maybe more colors. I'm

There maybe more colors. I'm not sure...

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The Story Goes

The story goes that from the early sixties through the end, you could order a /2 bike in any BMW car color from that year. If that's true, then there are surely many colors of bikes out there in very small numbers. You can find the BMW car color chips on the web still. Pick a color you like and go for it!

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I've heard of that policy, but...

None of the dealerships I've dealt with over the last five decades have ever mentioned the special order policy, I suspect because it was a pain in the butt to deal with. All I was ever offered was black, white, or red--with a long wait for the latter two colors. I've seen a handful of blue, gray, and green bikes over the years, but they must add up to less than 5% of the total. Duane was a dealer during the crucial /2 years, so he would probably know more about color choices.

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I'll Bet

I'll bet the wait was long! Absolutely everything had to be painted the special color - there would be nothing on the shelf painted that they could use. Not many guys waited, I'm sure and that alone put the special color numbers at just a few. But I think they are (were) out there.

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Amazed

I always thought originality beats personal taste but, oh boy, the Riviera Blue look great on these bikes!

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Damn It!

Now all of a sudden I am re-thinking the black I had planned.

Great thread. The police green looks really nice. Kind of old-school look - like black but something different.

I am fast reaching decision time on this part of the restoration. Now I need to research what was actually available in 1965.

And I thought this was a simple decision!

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like this

1965 german police bike

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Nice to see police

Nice to see police green...especially when it comes with police papers. My '52 R25/2 does! Big Grin

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By '65

By '65, most of the colors mentioned were available. Check out Turf green and Bristol gray. You can Google BMW car colors and see color chips of what was available that year, along with the color codes.

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Show off!

schrader7032 wrote:

Nice to see police green...especially when it comes with police papers. My '52 R25/2 does! Big Grin

Seriously, though that's very cool

Is the color in the photo I posted close?

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Yes...here's my R25/2. The

Yes...here's my R25/2. The previous owner had the tanks and tins painted...crapola...but the painter out of Cincinnati used Holt BMW paint...he's a good painter. The frame, though, is original. The pinstripes are not really white, but more of a cream or a white with some green mixed in.

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Green

Wow. Beautiful bike. Im surprised we don't see more colors. Again, I wish I had seen all of this before I painted my R60/2. It could have made a difference.

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Police bikes

I have talked with an old BMW mechanic in Athens, Greece and he told me that all bikes were being repainted black before they were shipped to Greece during the '60s and '70s, 'cause that's what customers wanted. Many restorers in Greece nowadays choose to repaint them in black, even though they were originally purchased by the French military or W. German police.

A few years back I bought an R60/2 from north Finland for a friend that was originally a Swedish police. It had been ordered in white with parade tank, but the second owner painted it all black in the early '80s..... Confused

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I like the color on your bike better

schrader7032 wrote:

Yes...here's my R25/2. The previous owner had the tanks and tins painted...crapola...but the painter out of Cincinnati used Holt BMW paint...he's a good painter. The frame, though, is original. The pinstripes are not really white, but more of a cream or a white with some green mixed in.

It is definitely a little darker. I sent you a message looking to see if you have the details on the paint your painter used (color name or code). Just trying to make it easier on my auto body supply shop.

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I just responded to your

I just responded to your message. I don't have any specifics about the color but I'm sure the painter asked Holt BMW to provide the proper color for police green...that's Holt's specialty.

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Holt BMW Paint

Got myself a little bit of an education today.

Holt has a "proprietary" few colors they have created for old BMWs based on matching color of original bikes. They sell the paint in kits that include hardener and reducer.

Here comes the education: For a quart (kit) of police green single stage enamel they want $409.00 plus shipping. I realistically need 2 or at least a quart and a pint - so we are talking around $800 for paint - no primer - just paint.
I can get a quart of single stage enamel in almost any color I want plus hardener plus reducer from my local auto body supply shop for about $100.00. If I want a single stage urethane, which I used with great results on my /5 it's about $130 per quart.

The folks at Holt seemed to be very competent and helpful but I am finding it very hard to justify that kind of money just to be sure I got the right color. My local guys are also very competent and helpful and I will walk away with lots of extras like mixing/measuring containers, filters and things like that for free. They can also match the color of something I bring in but I can't imagine how to get my hands on a piece of a police green bike to have them match it.

Kurt I know you are happy with your paint job and your painter got his stuff at Holt but I think it was more important for your tins to match your original frame. I'm doing the whole bike so that is not an issue for me.

I am leaning toward picking a color that is close from their color samples and using that. Am I being overly frugal?

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It's your choice as to where

It's your choice as to where you want to spend your money! As long as you can get something that you're proud of. The quality of the work will be more important than the preciseness of the color.

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Glasurit code

I'm following this discussion with interest because a friend wants to paint his bike with the Police Green color. Do you know the original Glasurit code for the paint? I have a 1959 Mercedes that was originally painted with Glasurit with a Mercedes code of DB439. From that code, the local PPG supplier was able to provide an exact match in a single stage, low VOC paint. A local shop did the spray and I did the cut-and-buff. The final result was super. I recently bought an additional pint of the paint for touch-up and it is again a perfect match. The cost for the pint was $45.

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