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I'm sending my fenders and tank out to be powder coated this week. Looking for recommendations for someone to do the pinstriping when I get them back, hopefully close by so I can drop them off. I live in Salinas, CA but anywhere in the SF Bay Area would work.

-Dave

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Scottie'S Work Shop. Says

Scottie'S Work Shop. Says they do pin striping. Santa Clara, Calif. Are you sure you want to powder coat the tank. Seems like it would be harder to pin strip? Yes they work on Vintage BMW.

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why is powder coat harder to

why is powder coat harder to pinstripe?

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Im the wrong guy to ask that

Im the wrong guy to ask that question. I have only had a few things powder coated. My center stand,side stand and 4 foot pegs on my R69.
But it is thick and shinny and not sure how well they would take to being painted?

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Please Don't

Please don't powder coat your tins. If you get a chip (and you will) it is really hard to touch up without showing, but more importantly, if you (or a subsequent owner) ever want to strip the tins, it will be a nightmare. I had a badly-powder coated frame and forks sand-blast stripped and it took a professional almost 6 hours - which is insane for a 2-hour job. Not to mention if you get a less-than-acceptable job, then you are in a pickle.

Single-stage paint that you can wet sand and hand rub, and touch up if needed, is much more preferred.

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What he said, ditto I have a

What he said, ditto
I have a lot of powder coated bolt-on accessories and parts done on various bikes. But not the tin.
Don't do it, the first time there os a chip or scratch:
#1) impossible to paint match. There is no such thing as spot powdercoating. Its the whole thing or nothing.
#2) if you do not take care of a scratch or chip right away rusting begins "under" th powder coat. Where you can't see it.

Ural started to powedercoat entire bikes in 2013. By 2016 they went back to paint. Lesson learned.
Yeah, it's durable... until it ain't.

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The problem with having it

The problem with having it painted is the difficulty of controlling the end result. My powder coater on the other hand has done many parts for me as part of a Porsche 356 restoration, and his work has been 100% to my satisfaction. If I tell him not to bead blast machined surfaces, he doesn't. He will mask according to instructions and can handle complicated parts (e.g. assemblies of parts, like an axle tube with the side flange loose on the tube, side flange painted only on one side, lots of machined surfaces at the wheel end). Color and gloss is exactly what I ask for and it is repeatable. My results from painters has never been consistent or predictable. I've had paint jobs come back with overspray, powdered surfaces, bondo dust in the paint, insufficient surface prep, poor color match to existing paint, paint that ages differently than the original, you name it.

Regarding touchup of minor chips on powder coated parts, you can get some of the powder used for the original, dissolve it in a solvent and paint it on using a brush. That's not a lot different from repairing painted surfaces.

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Depends on what your goal is.

You have good reasons for sticking with powder coat, but in my opinion the finish you get will never duplicate the original Glasurit finish on these bikes. The problem, of course, is that it can be insanely expensive to get it done "right."

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My next move would be to find

My next move would be to find someone that will pin strip on powder coating. Before I got the coating done. There maybe only 10 people that pin strip? And 2 that would consider.

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The previous owner of my bike

The previous owner of my bike said it was painted Glasurit black. What is that?

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I thought it was Avis Black

I thought it was Avis Black paint? Been told that for the last 3 yrs. Or is that just the color?

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Okay, now that glasurit paint

Okay, now that glasurit paint has been brought up...again...I should point out that it's really good looking but historically incorrect.

To reproduce the factory finish, you'll want to stick with good old enamel (lead based, if you can still find it). Remember those little glass jars of Testor's model paint we all used to paint our model kits? Well, that's what you should be using, or something like it. Thick and opaque and goopy. Roland Slaybon himself points out in his restoration guide that Glas paint may look great in that wet, glossy, Pebble Beach kind of way-(and boy, I have to admit it does look great)-it will have points taken off at a show. Look at Slaybon's book and you'll find that he recommends a few kinds of paint. (I'm afraid that I can't get to my copy at the moment or I'd try to copy the exact info for everybody).

Now, I realise that most people here are simply looking for a good-looking paint job. And that's fine. But be aware that there's a competing school of thought when it comes to repainting...

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Historically incorrect?

Hmmm...I am willing to be corrected, but I've read and heard a thousand times that Glasurit is the OEM paint for the /2 BMWs. I loaned my Slabon book to a friend, so I can't consult the reference you mentioned.

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Hmmm. Now I'm curious too. If

Hmmm. Now I'm curious too. If I'm right about Roland's comments, then perhaps it's a case of the Glas stuff showing up somewhere during the long production run of the /2s.

Or I might just be more of an idiot than I'd assumed.

Anybody know the history of Glas?

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Paint

Any single-stage paint will give you as good a finish as your painter's skills are. Using any available single-stage with modern equipment will give you a better finish than anything the factory put out if you are skilled. I don't know how you tell a skilled painter to give you a 'period' paint job.

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pinstriping

Back to the pinstriping question. Real Ralph. He is in the Bolder Creek area.

http://www.realralph.com/

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paint

Glasurit paint was also used (and still being used) on many things including my 75 R90S. My understanding is its a brand of high quality European paint. The Avis Black is a color and yes, used on most of the /2's including my 68 R60/2.

Here is a link to Glasurit .... http://refinish.basf.us/brands/glasurit/

Here is a photo of my R90S tank just back from getting Glasurit paint.

I have restored a couple bikes that have been powder coated and it hasn't been an issue. If its done right it looks really good.

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