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I just found a set of original Enduro Saddle bags. They are the textured bags. Overall (structurally) they are in good shape. Most if not all of the mounting brackets are there and in fairly good shape.

The surface however needs to be addressed, specifically painted. Has anyone painted their bags? If so, what kind of paint? Flat, Gloss or Semi-Gloss? Any recommendations?

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Enduro bags

Here are a couple photos of the bags.

Call me crazy but for the inside I was thinking about applying a coat of that Flex Seal. It would coat the inside, help waterproof and maybe even strengthen the shell.

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Clearly the original surface

Clearly the original surface is not glossy of any kind. I'd go with a matte finish. Are you going to be able to preserve the pin stripping? I like the idea of the flex seal coating...if you can easily paint on a thin layer, that would help. Your biggest intrusion point for water would be the lid.

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Nice find

Don't see many for sale
Where did you find them and how much did you pay
The pin stripping doesn't look original
Bluemoonscooter on ebay has the red lens if you need them

I wired the rear lights as extra brake lights instead of running lights and also added a dual filament bulb so I would have directional lights also
Plan to add a medium power LED for running lights someday

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Thanks for the input guys. The striping is flaking off so Im going to remove it and get it taped later on. For now its going Matt or maybe a Satin finish. I found the bags locally here in Virginia from a guy who restores and works on these old bikes. I paid $500 for everything. They were not cheap but since they are the originals and in such good shape I went ahead and paid it. It won't coast much to get them looking good, just a lot of TLC. If they come out nice Im sure they will be worth every penny I have invested. They really fit my R60/2 well.

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You did ok not cheap but like you said they are original
I have seen ones in very good shape go for more than $1500.00 but haven't seen any in over 2 years
I modified my rear rack brackets to fit with the bags (the lower brackets don't have enough clearance) to go behind the bags and lower attachments points)
I can send pics if you ever want to add a rear rack
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First impressions are good. The Flex Seal went on thicker (inside) than I wanted but I still like it. I used a Satin finish for the outside and Im happy with that as well. It will take 24 hours for everything to dry so I will post more photos tomorrow. For now here is what I have.

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Very nice work
Thanks, I now have another project
I like the flex seal finish inside and now will do the same and also repaint mine this winter
Will post before and after pics when done

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wa1nca wrote:

Very nice work
Thanks, I now have another project
I like the flex seal finish inside and now will do the same and also repaint mine this winter
Will post before and after pics when done
Tommy

Hey Tommy,
Thanks for your input. Your earlier remarks regarding the lights in the bag have me wondering. There has to be a way to add a dual filament bulb for "running" and "brake" lights, correct? Since I don't have any turn signals Im guessing that is possible. If I get turn signals Ill get the handlebar mounted system. I have owned a 1200GS for years but this /2 is all new to me.

And yes, I really like the Flex Seal on the inside. It gives the bag a more substantial or solid feel. FYI, I did all of this in one day. I still have the flat side of the bags to paint but that should be easy. After that I will need to work on the lid, latches and mounts. If I didn't have to wait for the paint to dry I could probably do most of it in one day.

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If anyone is curious as to what I used. Here it is.

The Flex Seal did a really good job covering the fiberglass repairs from years ago.

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Enduro lights

Ok
I bought my enduro bags 3 years ago and was happy to pay $450.00
The bulb socket was changed to fit a 2 filament bulb
I thought this was the original configuration but now realize the original socket was only for a single filament bulb
Not sure where the 2 filament socket was found but I would make a socket for the dual function as I think the single design was only used for running lights and I would fell better if one had some extra brake lights in the rears and also directional lights
Again I will be adding another led for my running lights this winter
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After I now must refinish my enduro bags like you did so well

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Almost done with the bags. I had to remove, de-rust, paint and re-rivit the latches and lids. They actually came out very nice. I really like the Flex Seal rubber coating on the inside. It covers all the fiberglass patches and IMHO adds to the structure of the bag. The only problem I have now are the mounts. The left bag fits nice but the right bag rubs the shock. Im afraid if I leave it it will just rub a hole in the bag. If I can't get that figured out there is a guy out in Calif who sells an aftermarket set that is smaller, lighter and stronger. Time will tell. Oh, obviously I couldn't save the pin striping. When I get the bike painted I will get them to add the stripes to the bags.

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The restoration/reproduction

The restoration/reproduction ones look so, so much better and the hardware is so much better.
But... they are not original. You did very well, in fact incredibly well for $500.
That pin striping is not original anyway so I wouldn't worry about it.

I just took my enduro bags off my bike for the Winter and was thinking about selling them. Perhaps going with some nice black or brown leather bags. Like the old German Postal or Police type. But then I realize I will never find a set/pair like what I have again, ever.

Couple pix with and without the bags. Unrestored runner:

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Mike
Are your pin strips original?
Mine are not
Yours don't seem so but I may be wrong
Does anyone have a good pic with the original pin strips?

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The restoration/reproduction ones look so, so much better and the hardware is so much better.
But... they are not original. You did very well, in fact incredibly well for $500.
That pin striping is not original anyway so I wouldn't worry about it.
I just took my enduro bags off my bike for the Winter and was thinking about selling them. Perhaps going with some nice black or brown leather bags. Like the old German Postal or Police type. But then I realize I will never find a set/pair like what I have again, ever.
Couple pix with and without the bags. Unrestored runner:

Thanks for your response. I appreciate your input and its always great to see other set ups. Those pin stripes look original to me. Im not sure what Im going to do about mine.

Today I took the bike out for a nice ride. I went back to see the guy who sold me the bags. He was very happy and sad at the same time. I think Im going to like the look. Im very happy. Photos from today.

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The only thing I regret is painting the latches. In this case however all the chrome was gone and they were full of rust.

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You did a really nice job on

You did a really nice job on them and they look darn good without the striping. I believe my stripes are original but who really knows. It's all period aftermarket anyway. I need to change the 2 dzuz hardware thingy's that go to the bottom holder at some point. I just use a bolt and nut on it now and it's unseen... probably safer than the original set-up.

So you know there is a guy in CT. that sells a copy of the generic key that works with these old locks. Not a bad idea to do when motoring down the bumpy roads. He advertises on eBay every once and awhile. The key was $25.00 (ouch). But it does work.

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Those bags look fantastic!

Nothing beats the look of the Enduros, with or without the stripes. I agree about the latches, but if you're patient, new ones with keys will show up on eBay, or you may find something even better that looks just as good.

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stagewex wrote:

You did a really nice job on them and they look darn good without the striping. I believe my stripes are original but who really knows. It's all period aftermarket anyway. I need to change the 2 dzuz hardware thingy's that go to the bottom holder at some point. I just use a bolt and nut on it now and it's unseen... probably safer than the original set-up.

So you know there is a guy in CT. that sells a copy of the generic key that works with these old locks. Not a bad idea to do when motoring down the bumpy roads. He advertises on eBay every once and awhile. The key was $25.00 (ouch). But it does work.

Is this the guy and key you are talking about?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-FIND-BMW-ENDURO-SADDLEBAG-KEY-/182380757691...

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Also, I just found these on eBay. A little different than mine but for the price it may work. They clean up well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Airhead-Enduro-Style-Plastic-Cases-BMW-Vinta...

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Key for enduro bags

I didn't know someone has the keys available
I replaced my locks with ones that Danny ( Bluemoonscotter) used on his repo enduro bags 2 years ago
They work and look ok but are not original
I did save my old ones and may order the keys

Can't wait to refinish my bags

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I was able to talk to the guy who has the keys yesterday. Nice gentleman. Said he picked up a bunch of keys from an elderly man who had them for years. After we confirmed it was the correct key for the Enduro Bags I bought one. He said he two more left.

Tommy ..... it looks like you have the original stripes. This is the first time I have seen the stripes on the lids. Very interesting.

He sent me a photo of his own bags and he had the same stripes.

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Just ordered a key from Mike today
1 left
Very nice person to deal with
My pinstripes are blue in the middle
He said someone colored them in, maybe had a blue frame
Anyway the pic he sent you are the original confiquration
He said it was ok to forward the pics
Also thanks to Stagewex for site to purchase the key
I do like the stripes on my lids and not sure at this point if I will renew them

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Thanks Tommy ....

Here are the photos Mike sent me. He said the pin strips are original. The real McCoy. If you bought a key there is only one left. I will let you know how the key works in my system when I get it.

Does anyone know where I can find the "trim" to the lid? I have a different trim on each bag. Id like to match them up. I couldn't find anything at the auto stores.

Also, Im looking for a two filament tail light for the bags. I need to swap out the socket so I can have running as well as brake lights.

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Autobody, Glass shop for the trim??

Found these on Oreilly autoparts website
1st pic looks best $2.99
May need small mod to cutoff tab on side
2nd pic small mod to base $ 5.69

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wa1nca wrote:

Autobody, Glass shop for the trim??
Found these on Oreilly autoparts website
1st pic looks best $2.99
May need small mod to cutoff tab on side
2nd pic small mod to base $ 5.69
Tommy

Due to the size of the bulbs in the Enduro bags I couldn't find a replacement socket. Being 6 volts doesn't help either.

On a good note .... I finally got my Enduro Bag KEY and it works. Now I can lock the lids down so they won't blow off. Yippie.

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Socket for dual filament bulb

As I said earlier my bags came with a dual socket for the for the rear lights
It was modified
I now think my bulb socket is original and I now understand what the previous owner did to make it work

Not a great job but now know how I would do it better
Is this pic the same as your bulb socket??
If so I can tell you how modify it

You will be happy to have a brake light and running light for each sadddlebag !!
In my case I have a brake light and direction light and will then add a LED light for my running light

I did get my key today and it does work well
If one thinks $30.00 is pricey for the key then try to find another top Lid
They have to be locked when riding but also need to have a good safety strap if the lid does become unlatched

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Yep, Having that key is "key".

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BMW SADDLE BAGS LED LIGHT PARK STOP

hi
i make myself LED for our BMW Saddle Bags
look photos

you can buy LED festoon , must be

6 for 6 volt bikes instalation
or
12 volts for 12 volt instalation

for stop light you can install directly
for park light you must put resistor ..like pictures

try resistor 100 - 400 ohms cca 1/2 w

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As I said earlier my bags came with a dual socket for the for the rear lights
It was modified
I now think my bulb socket is original and I now understand what the previous owner did to make it work

Not a great job but now know how I would do it better
Is this pic the same as your bulb socket??
If so I can tell you how modify it

You will be happy to have a brake light and running light for each sadddlebag !!
In my case I have a brake light and direction light and will then add a LED light for my running light

I did get my key today and it does work well
If one thinks $30.00 is pricey for the key then try to find another top Lid
They have to be locked when riding but also need to have a good safety strap if the lid does become unlatched

Yes, that is what mine looks like. Love to hear how to modify it to a 6V dual filament light bulb.
chuck

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Dual socket

Autozone also has the dual contact pigtail part # 85801 $2.99
I did not use the upper insulator with the tab
Added 2 short pieces of heat shrink below insulator
Need 2 file off the 2 tabs on the bulb
Then with a pair of pliers squeeze the socket to make a snug fit, top part only you want the spring and contact plate to be free to move to make a good connection
Align the bulb contacts with the pins on the socket and push the bulb in
You can also add a zip tie to tighten the bulb to the socket

Added 5 more pics

Painted inside of lens holder with chrome metallic paint
Other pic show it working
I was using a 12 volt bulb and only had a 6 volt battery so the lights would be brighter if it was powered by a 12 volt source

If anybody does this let me know how it works for you
Not a bad upgrade for $2.99 and a little labor

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Thanks Tommy,
The bike is coming apart soon to get painted so it may be awhile. I will keep you posted.
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Is that the original paint on your bike
If so it looks dame good and I would keep the original

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No, the paint is not original. Not only is it not original its been spot painted so if its in the sun or bright light you can actually see multiple shades of black. It looks like the last guy who painted it painted it white then overshot it with black to get the white stripes. Everywhere the paint has chipped its white. The frame seems to be ok. All Im going to do is paint the fenders, tank, ears, headlight and shock tops. There is a local guy who hand pants the white stripes.

While the bike is apart Im going to go through as much as I can and clean it up. Good chance to look at all the bushings and seals. Good winter project.

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Please post before and after pic's

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Hey Tommy,
I think the best thing to do now is start a new "rebuild" post to reflect what Im doing. At best it will only be a partial restoration so look for a post called 1968 R60/2 Partial Restoration.
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skychs wrote:

Thanks for the input guys. The striping is flaking off so Im going to remove it and get it taped later on. For now its going Matt or maybe a Satin finish. I found the bags locally here in Virginia from a guy who restores and works on these old bikes. I paid $500 for everything. They were not cheap but since they are the originals and in such good shape I went ahead and paid it. It won't coast much to get them looking good, just a lot of TLC. If they come out nice Im sure they will be worth every penny I have invested. They really fit my R60/2 well.

Just sold on ebay
Item # 23230461850
Yours look a lot better
$1905.00

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hi, i buy in ebay UK 1/2017 for 500 €
original enduro saddle bags
very nice condition with original holders

its bigest and very soft plastic like our saddle bags
new red lamp plastic i buy from blumoonscooters - ebay

i have our new inox holders if you need
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Did you ever add a dual bulb socket to your saddlebags for running and brake lights ?
If so want did you do

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hi yes read my post up side

hi
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read my post up side Smile

Fri, 01/06/2017 - 20:51

BMW SADDLE BAGS LED LIGHT PARK STOP
hi
i make myself LED for our BMW Saddle Bags
look photos

you can buy LED festoon , must be

6 for 6 volt bikes instalation
or
12 volts for 12 volt instalation

for stop light you can install directly
for park light you must put resistor ..like pictures

try resistor 100 - 400 ohms cca 1/2 w

regards,Mec

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hi,
we finish enduro saddlebags brackets holders version 2
you can install upper holder inside fenders
its ready for BMW R50 - R69S
( only for OLD Enduro Saddle Bags ABS )

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wa1nca wrote:

Did you ever add a dual bulb socket to your saddlebags for running and brake lights ?
If so want did you do

Tommy

I never did the dual filament swap for the Enduro bags. I simply ran the wires from the bag lights to the block for brake lights. Running lights are nice but I think extra brake lights are a better application. Maybe down the road.
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Here are a couple photos of the bag lights on and off with the running lights. Not a huge difference during the day but noticeable at night.

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Nice.

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While Im here ....
I'd like to replace the seal/trim on the lids. It looks like one side has been replaced but it's different from the other side. Any idea where I can get the lid trim?

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nice skychs , perfect send me

nice skychs , perfect

send me booth pictures , i look in my shop
maybe i find

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