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Matteo
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I'm starting the tear down of my R12 for a restoration. It can use a fresh paint job. Question is what color? Good ol' black? Military grey? Desert tan? The bike is from 1940 and was delivered to the German army. Not sure of the original color. Were any black bike with pinstripes delivered to the army?

I'm taking a poll. What color would you choose?

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My '41 came to me painted in

My '41 came to me painted in civilian black and white, but after straightening the frame (some more) it will need a new paint job. Historic accuracy would argue for tan or gray, but but I dislike the kind of attention the military bikes sometimes attract. I will probably go with civilian again.

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... I surely don't know too

... I surely don't know too much about this, but I had thought early Wehrmacht BMW were feldgrau, Luftwaffe some sort of a blueish grey, and after about 1943, everything was painted "sahara beige" up to the very end (I don't know if that's the same as Deutsches Afrika Korps paint color?)? If your 1940 R12 was not a donation-to-the-war effort, or a requisition, would it not have been feldgrau?...I think there's a website for folks interested in german military vehicles of the WWII era?...some expert will chime in?...I'd think that at the end, they would paint any color they had? Didya know that eastern european BMW were often painted blue because that's the only paint color easily available in those forsaken lands, until around 1990!..FWIW/IMO, your motorcycle is a historical artifact: go with feldgrau?...

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Luftwaffe paint colors

It is rather timely that Dietmar, a well known and very knowledgeable denizen of the Kradrider Yahoo mailing list, posted the following today about Luftwaffe paint colors:

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With all equipment from canisters to vehicles they had two color versions.
Till 1943 it was bluegrey (pidgeon blue), that is no longer part of the
scheme RAL Classic. The last scheme number of this color tone was
7016, but what today runs under that number is not how it was pre-1944.

After 1943 Luftwaffe changed to "blackgrey". Also all equipment from then had this
dark paint. It today still exists - only under a different number RAL Classic. It is this
unfamous 7021, some still call "tankgrey" and assume that was the color of the
ground forces and infantry.

With a R75, what commonly is a BMW 750, it is late war production and will
fit to RAL 7021 Luftwaffe. It today is mulitifunctional. Some can be made believe,
it is infantry, SS or whatever, and others understand, that really was Luftwaffe.
So best choice the one or other way.

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If your asking what other

If your asking what other people like, then I think all these bikes look great in black, if you go military, my vote goes blue/grey over the tan colour.

I have just spent 9 days in Guernsey (Channel Islands) celebrating their 70th Liberation with my R11, much of the time following a 1941 military R12 with sidecar. When the owner bought the bike years ago in Germany it was the tan colour, when stripping the bike down he found some blue/grey underneath. He repainted the bike original blue/grey colour and it looks good.

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I am looking for people's

I am looking for people's opinions. I will likely go for black. I remember being taken by the R12 with the pinstripes and Art Deco fenders. But I've been thinking I should go for what I think would have been original. I'll probably toy with it until I have to make the decision.

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Painting a R12

If your going to do the bike right, email the archives and find out where it was delivered. This will determin if its gonna be Gray or black usually and if you paint it Grau do the right color please. Don't make it shinny, it looks like garbage shinny. If you need help with the correct Grau paint, contact Drew at 1944 he has matched the perfect color of Grau.

Mike

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Here is what I got from the

Here is what I got from the BMW archives: The BMW R 12 engine No. Xxxxx was delivered on January 16th, 1940 to the Heereszeugamt Ingolstadt.

Does that make the bike black or Grau? I assume army gray.

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It was deliver Grau...Army

It was deliver Grau...Army Depot.

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