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I'd like some help identifying a BMW tool roll that I bought last week at the Berlin Antique Fair.

It has a canvas cover that unfolds into a cross shape, with snaps to close both sets of flaps. It is olive drab in color, so I suspect it is for a military model, probably from WWII. It has two double-end open end wrenches (11x16 & 8x9), a combination tire-iron/open end wrench (14mm), a combination tire-iron hex driver for the socket set, a short and long hex extension, a knurled handle for the hex extension, 6 sockets and a flat screwdriver blade with hex shaft.

The wrenches are marked "CHROMNICKEL E.N.15 and have a triangular logo with the name GLUTH or GLVTH.
The combination tire/iron hex driver is marked "D. R. P. ang."
The long hex extension is marked CHROMNICKEL E.N.15, has the triangular logo with the name GLUTH and has a BMW logo.
The rest of the tools are unmarked.

I searched for photos of BMW tool kits on-line and didn't find anything this old, so I am hoping some of the experts on vintage BMW's can help me identify which model this tool kit is for.

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I can't say for certain,

I can't say for certain, because I've never held one of these in my hand, but the pouch and at least some of the tools definitely resemble the drawings in several of my parts books for prewar BMWs. I can tell you that D.R.P. is Deutsche Reichspatente, or the patent office and Ang. is angemeldet, or applied; ie, patent pending.

Is the 11x16 wrench the one at the top in the second photo?

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Darryl, thanks for your

Darryl, thanks for your reply. Pre-war is a good possibility. The only reference I could find in a Google search for Gluth German Wrench was a 1936/1937 patent: http://www.adjustable.archivist.info/patents/GB/1937/GB463380A.pdf

That page shows a patent for an adjustable wrench by Robert Gluth & Co. 32 Elsenheimerstrasse, Munich Germany.

The Robert Gluth company still exists, so I've emailed them. The company history says that the company was originally located in Munich, and it was destroyed by the bombing in 1944. The present company does not make wrenches, but it is a family-owned company so perhaps I'll get an answer.

The top wrench is the 11x16 wrench.

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Thanks for starting this

Thanks for starting this interesting thread. I hope more info is forthcoming. Here are the tools I got with my R16. Unfortunately some type of plating or finish has been applied and there are few markings with the exception of the roundel on the exhaust flange spanner and some numbers on the small tommy bar. The hex extension looks identical to yours as does the smaller open end spanner.

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The sockets are also the

The sockets are also the same. Where is the toolkit stowed on an R16?

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In the toolbox!

In the toolbox!

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The reason why I was asking

The reason why I was asking about the 11x16 wrench is that it appears to have a bent head on the 11 side. This is the wrench that BMW supplied in order to set the valve lash on the sidevalve split case motors. You need a wrench with a special bend to get inside the valve adjustment port. It's very tight and you need to put 3 wrenches in to hold the valve lash adjuster, the lock nut and the cam follower. All of the owners manuals show this wrench, but I've never seen one.

I have made usable wrenches from bicycle spindle wrenches - they are made from stamped steel - that I have bent with a vise and a propane torch, and then ground down to fit into the port. Even so, it's a real PITA to get them set.

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Here are some photos that

Here are some photos that show the offset end of the 11x16 wrench. The forging is .183" thick at the wrench ends and the long part is .133" thick. Overall length is 5.5".

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Wow! Thanks! That's a great

Wow! Thanks! That's a great help, the next time I get frustrated and try to make one of these up.

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