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Last week I found a local "one owner" (two if you count father and son) bike that was sold new here in Dallas. The bike shows just under 30K miles. The son I purchased the bike from had the slingers cleaned by Perry in Ft Worth over a decade ago, but virtually no miles have been put on the bike since then. Last registered in 2001 and last started maybe as recently as a "few years ago".

I think the bike is pretty original except for the mufflers and the crusty Yuasa battery I removed. It is a triple numbers matching bike and came with Buco bags and upper and lower Wixon fairings, factory tools, all keys, owner's manuals, etc. I will probably never use the fairings or bags but who knows.

Needless to say I'm excited to have one of these bikes after a decade of playing with two strokes. I've gone full circle twice now, this is the third (or 4th?) time around with vintage BMW twins. I already removed the rather ugly dual seat to examine the patina of the paint on the back fender.

What do you guys think, sacrilege to attempt to mount an R68 Sport Bow on the back? I'm never got got be able to afford a real R68.

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Nice find

That's a real nice find. Enjoy the ride!

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Definitely nice bike. If

Definitely nice bike. If Perry did the work, you should be in good shape. As for the seat, I'd personally put a solo seat on it and call it a day. Maybe get a fender rack from Vech. You could put a pillion seat on top of the rack if so inclined.

Also you might want to drop an email to the BMW Archives and ask for build date information on your bike. Usually they have info on the date of build, where it went to (dealer), and maybe if it had a bench seat. The one you have may be the original...probably might want to keep it just in case. Search this forum for info on the Archives. Also, enter your BMW VIN on the left side of the screen, then go to the bottom of the screen and look for a PDF file. You can look at that and get a general idea where your bike falls in terms of build information.

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Your very nice...

...motorcycle has "Stadium" mirrors of the old variety mounted. These are labelled "Made in Gr Britain", from a time when Britain was called "Great", are of very nice quality, and are quite desirable with the Brit bike folks. Sometimes it's necessary to cut the clutch lever short to fit with the LHS Stadium, as was done on your bike. There's and early version Albert mirror that looks very similar, also hard to find?

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The bike is number 625692. I would like to find a rear fender rack and thanks for the info on the Stadium mirrors. I have a Denfeld folding rack hanging in the garage that I have never used on a bike, are they good?

This bike came with a large (ugly) chrome rear rack that looks like something on a 70s Jap bike, says "BMW" on it but maybe aftermarket?

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Many /2 had that chrome rear

Many /2 had that chrome rear rack. I may have one or two in the garage from over the years.

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About those mirrors...

The stems on your mirrors look like Stadiums, but the heads are probably not original. I am ready to be corrected, but all of the Stadiums I have seen have mirror heads that are trapezoidal in shape, not round.

I agree that the bike is very nice. You should get many miles and many years of enjoyment from it.

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About that seat...

Before you ditch the couch, er seat, you might find it incredibly comfortable, especially for long rides. Yea, the tractor type seats look cool and vintage and all, but the Schorsh Meiers afford a lot of of variety in position and comfort. The pipes are attractive; if they're not too loud, why replace them (have you priced original type yet?).

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Seat and pipes

I know that the solo seats are not as comfortable but they obscure the beauty of the rear fender, which I really love. I will surely keep the wide dual seat to install if I ever decide to travel any distance (not very likely). I have a smaller dual seat that came with my 58 R69 years ago too, but sadly I never rode that bike because I was worried it needed slinger work I could not afford. A few years back I put a solo seat on a 66 Allstate (Puch) 175 twinkle just for the looks.

I have no plans to change the pipes any time soon because the cost is prohibitive. I am eager to hear it run. The seller said the pipes are a little loud (hope not, been there done that). Are these Dixie pipes that I have read about here on the forum?

My first priority is to buy a decent battery. Current thinking is to avoid a lead acid battery if possible because of the associated corrosion they cause. I welcome advice on this. Second priority will be new tires.

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Nice find for sure,

Nice find for sure, especially with all matching numbers, known provenance, and slingers done by someone who knows what he's doing. Personally, I find the large touring seat more comfortable than the solo seat but I do think it sort of overwhelms the standard tank, appearance-wise. If you change it out, I would hold onto it, especially if it turns out to be original to the bike. Used ones don't bring much money anyway. If you go to a solo seat, I think a sport bow would look good if it fits properly. Again - - keep all parts that came on the bike originally, even (or maybe especially) the hardware and fasteners. All that stuff is slowly turning to gold.

I think 1964 is within the range of years that BMW heads often gave a lot of problems. I can vouch for the fact that 1965 is. Do a search for "butterheads" on this forum and elsewhere to learn more. If your heads are original and have never been re-worked, see how well your valves hold their adjustment and see if the threaded inserts for the sparkplugs appear to be stable and not slowly working their way out of the heads.

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Yes, those look like the

Yes, those look like the Dixie pipes I have on my '67 R50/2. They're louder than stock, but not obnoxiously so.

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Battery

I'm running a lead-acid battery in my R69S...I have no corrosion issues relative to the body work. The only issue I'm having is that the nuts/bolts that secure the leads to the battery tend to corrode. I've tried a number of things and may have finally settled on using the small packet of battery compound they provide at the various auto parts stores. Strange in that I've never had this kind of problem on my /7, but the R69S has been a royal pain.

I was running a AGM-type battery in my R25/2 but it eventually failed on me while on the road. I got the battery from Vech but he has since changed his thinking on the singles...they vibrate too much and tend to destroy these batteries. So, I'm back to a lead-acid battery. So far so good, but I've been monitoring the charging voltage just to be sure I don't overcharge and push fluid out.

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To add to the battery

To add to the battery discussion - - I'm a fan of the AGM (or maybe they're gell) 6 volt batteries that Vech sells. They last a good while in my twin and they're cheap. They fit well except a little skinnier than stock so I cut a 3/4 inch thick wood block, paint it black, and put it behind the battery to take up the space. Vech's batteries are black and he sells those little orange and yellow Bosch stick-on cheater labels that look good, IMO. No corrosion problems anywhere so far.

Regarding the luggage racks - - BMW sold at least two folding versions back in the day. One was made by Denfeld and the other by Lietz (or Leitz). The Lietz model was the "cheaper" version but good chrome and high quality. Some people confuse the two and call any /2 folding rack a "Denfeld". The fold-down portion of the Lietz has curved side pieces. They come up on eBay fairly regularly.

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Battery

Looking at Vech's site now, is the gel battery you are describing listed as 61 21 8 042 027S? Will my rectangular plastic cap fit on top of this battery? Thanks for the help.

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Call Vech...they'll be glad

Call Vech...they'll be glad to discuss it!

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Battery

DFoote wrote:

Looking at Vech's site now, is the gel battery you are describing listed as 61 21 8 042 027S? Will my rectangular plastic cap fit on top of this battery? Thanks for the help.

Yes, that appears to be the one but call Benchmark if you want to look into it as Kurt suggests. I don't know if the plastic cap will fit on top but the last one I got from Vech measures 5 1/2'' high, 4 1/8" wide, and 2 11/16 deep (i.e., front to back). If you cut a 3/4" spacer to go behind the battery, you can use the stock rubber hold-down strap. As you can see from the picture, you would need to modify the connections but no big deal.

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I had a battery in the garage...questions

At least 5 years ago I went to a "motorcycle estate sale" in Lubbock, TX. the guy had grt taste in bikes? I bought several pallets of misc BMW parts and one pallet of batteries (why ask why). In hindsight I sure wish I had bought more. After work today I rembered this stash and look what I found.

I have some questions. Does anyone actually use a "fancy" battery like this, or is it just for a show bike? I notice it is not vented like every lead acid battery I have ever used on a bike? I already own this battery so I'm inclined to use it. I have a LOT of battery acid that came on that pallet...

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Thanks for the head info

RD, thanks for the info about the problematic heads, I spent a good bit of time reading old posts on the subject. I've owned several of these bikes over the years and I'm surprised I was never aware of this...or maybe I plain forgot. The internet will make me a better owner this time around.

Owning a CJ750 the last few years has forced me to learn a lot just to keep it running.

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Heard back from BMW Archives

I got the following response back about my VIN:

Dear Mr Foote,

Thank you for your email.

The BMW R 60/2 VIN 625692 was manufactured on February 12th, 1964 and delivered on February 28th, 1964 to the BMW importer Butler & Smith in New York City. The bike was equipped with a bench seat.

We hope this information is helpful for you.

Yours sincerely,

Julia Oberndörfer
BMW Group Archiv

WAY Group
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Internet: www.waygroup.de

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